Hi
I want to design a program to run a small theatre show. It`s need to be foolprof. Fadeing from one scene to the next. Or from one step -of a scene- to the next one at the tauch of one key in the keypad. How shall i plan it to accomplish this?
regards
Fading scenes throw a theatre show
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JohnRichards
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Re: Fadeing scenes throw a theatre show
There are many ways of doing this in ShowXpress.
I have found timeline with the pause button suits me the best for theatre.
I have found timeline with the pause button suits me the best for theatre.
Re: Fading scenes throw a theatre show
You really are not helping!
How the hell do you programme timeline
I have a similar problem and I need a step by step illustration.
I have set up editor for the different scenes and I need to cross fade between 2 scenes.
The manual is useless and so far the posts on this forum have not been helpful
Surely it is possible to make one click in live to go from one scene to the next with a cross fade time of 10 secs without resorting to several clocks.
Your help would be appreciated as I am stuck
How the hell do you programme timeline
I have a similar problem and I need a step by step illustration.
I have set up editor for the different scenes and I need to cross fade between 2 scenes.
The manual is useless and so far the posts on this forum have not been helpful
Surely it is possible to make one click in live to go from one scene to the next with a cross fade time of 10 secs without resorting to several clocks.
Your help would be appreciated as I am stuck
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JohnRichards
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Re: Fading scenes throw a theatre show
Most of the users on this forum are very helpful.
It is very difficult to know what you really want.
Send me your Lighting Plan and fixture list and I will setup a demo for you.
John
It is very difficult to know what you really want.
Send me your Lighting Plan and fixture list and I will setup a demo for you.
John
Re: Fading scenes throw a theatre show
I want this programme to act in the same way a solid state dmx controller works.
The scenes are set to memory and for my shows I might have up to 25 scenes. The show is a concert so I have no idea how long each scene will last.
I need to be able to fade out of one scene into the next scene over a period of several seconds.
Ideally this would be done by triggering the mouse or a key.
I have looked at the manual without any success as it I do not have moving lights but a mixture of conventional and LED lights. It's a very simple rig.
The other requirement I have is the ability to override a scene whilst it is running. I have no rehearsal period'. Artistes arrive on the day from all over the world so I need to manage my lights on the hoof during the performance. This is not easy on a dmx controller.
Because the DMX controller does not show the state of a lamp there is a great need to be able to access each light and make any changes quickly and easily. Hence the need for a visual record of each scene.
I have seen some examples but it does not show me how the effect is programmed so I need written instructions so I can programme and save each concert.
Hope you can help
The scenes are set to memory and for my shows I might have up to 25 scenes. The show is a concert so I have no idea how long each scene will last.
I need to be able to fade out of one scene into the next scene over a period of several seconds.
Ideally this would be done by triggering the mouse or a key.
I have looked at the manual without any success as it I do not have moving lights but a mixture of conventional and LED lights. It's a very simple rig.
The other requirement I have is the ability to override a scene whilst it is running. I have no rehearsal period'. Artistes arrive on the day from all over the world so I need to manage my lights on the hoof during the performance. This is not easy on a dmx controller.
Because the DMX controller does not show the state of a lamp there is a great need to be able to access each light and make any changes quickly and easily. Hence the need for a visual record of each scene.
I have seen some examples but it does not show me how the effect is programmed so I need written instructions so I can programme and save each concert.
Hope you can help
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JohnRichards
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Re: Fading scenes throw a theatre show
Attached find simple theatre setup that you could look at and see what was done. Best advice is try as many things as you can. It is very difficult to explain over text messages.
You will also note that I have setup a "control" fixture which can be run from editor.
John
You will also note that I have setup a "control" fixture which can be run from editor.
John
Re: Fading scenes throw a theatre show
Sorry but I don't know what you are trying to show me. As I do not have a similar light set up to you I cannot see the results.
The problem is how do I create my show. I have mastered setup, editor - created some scenes and put them into live.
If I click on a scene in LIVE it immediately lights and each scene changes to the required setting when I press the button, but it does it instantly so I end up with flashing lights as in a chase.
If you are unaware how a theatre show works, the basic requirement is for there to be a crossfade from one scene to the next over a 5 or 10 sec period. For instance you may require the lights to fade out over 10 secs and the new scene to fade in over it in 5 sec to produce a suttle lighting change. A spot goes out maybe!
Each scene is called a cue and it should happen on the press of a button (GO). These can come very quickly and there is no time to change any settings.
My LIVE screen should show each cue required through a show. My needs require up to 30 cues and for there to be a seamless change between each scene (cue) at the required time setting.
Most DMX control boards have this simple requirement but are not capable of storing several shows nor do they give a visual view of the set up of each scene so minor adjustments can be made.
My needs are specific to a small theatre putting on classical music concerts and NOT DJ or club orientated.
In EDITOR by right clicking it is possible to 'Set "fade" state of channels on all steps' whatever that meand and even if I set the step time at 10 secs it does not work
I hope you can see my problem with this product. It is fine for a show requiring chase scenes and changes but each scene set up needs to go into one overall scene with no steps and fading in or out on a change.
The problem is how do I create my show. I have mastered setup, editor - created some scenes and put them into live.
If I click on a scene in LIVE it immediately lights and each scene changes to the required setting when I press the button, but it does it instantly so I end up with flashing lights as in a chase.
If you are unaware how a theatre show works, the basic requirement is for there to be a crossfade from one scene to the next over a 5 or 10 sec period. For instance you may require the lights to fade out over 10 secs and the new scene to fade in over it in 5 sec to produce a suttle lighting change. A spot goes out maybe!
Each scene is called a cue and it should happen on the press of a button (GO). These can come very quickly and there is no time to change any settings.
My LIVE screen should show each cue required through a show. My needs require up to 30 cues and for there to be a seamless change between each scene (cue) at the required time setting.
Most DMX control boards have this simple requirement but are not capable of storing several shows nor do they give a visual view of the set up of each scene so minor adjustments can be made.
My needs are specific to a small theatre putting on classical music concerts and NOT DJ or club orientated.
In EDITOR by right clicking it is possible to 'Set "fade" state of channels on all steps' whatever that meand and even if I set the step time at 10 secs it does not work
I hope you can see my problem with this product. It is fine for a show requiring chase scenes and changes but each scene set up needs to go into one overall scene with no steps and fading in or out on a change.
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JohnRichards
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Re: Fading scenes throw a theatre show
Sorry, but it appears as if you do not wish to learn anything, but to be spoonfed like a kindergarten student.
The lightshow that I sent you does most of the things that you want to do. If you look and the scenes created, how they are configured in Live, notice that the button below the fade slider is set to Fade and not Instant.
The demo_show also shows a lot features that you are trying to do.
For your records, I have been in the Theatre lighting/sound scene for about 25 years.
John
The lightshow that I sent you does most of the things that you want to do. If you look and the scenes created, how they are configured in Live, notice that the button below the fade slider is set to Fade and not Instant.
The demo_show also shows a lot features that you are trying to do.
For your records, I have been in the Theatre lighting/sound scene for about 25 years.
John
Re: Fading scenes throw a theatre show
There is no need to be rude. I looked at your show but as I didn't know what to look for I cannot really see what your showing me.
If you had included the relevant points then I could have followed your reasoning.
Incidentally I have been in the theatre business for over 40 years and have used computer boards in the last 30 years. They were a doddle to use in comparison with this product.
If you had included the relevant points then I could have followed your reasoning.
Incidentally I have been in the theatre business for over 40 years and have used computer boards in the last 30 years. They were a doddle to use in comparison with this product.
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JohnRichards
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Re: Fading scenes throw a theatre show
Then after 40 years you would know what a lighting plan is.
If you had sent that to me as I originally requested, I could of helped you a lot more.
John
If you had sent that to me as I originally requested, I could of helped you a lot more.
John