Manual Step Trigger Button

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RGBlite
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Re: Manual Step - Answer???

Post by RGBlite »

More and more I think I need this feature, so I wracked my brain trying to think of a workaround, and then it hit me. The only thing I know of in the software that will step through a scene is the Auto BPM feature, so if I have my external trigger just make a proper tone, and put that signal in instead of music, that would step through the scene, one step at a time. First I thought about making a little tone generator circuit, when I realized I have an old drum machine with drum trigger buttons. SO, I put that into the audio input, instead of my music source. I had trouble getting enough volume, so I have to run the output of the drum machine through an old DJ mixer.

And the answer is.... it sort of works! If I hit the drum trigger (like bass drum), it steps through the scene rather consistently at one beat per second (60 BPM), but as you go faster than that it starts to miss or drop beats. Very disappointing for my needs. And it made me go back and study the Auto BPM feature with music, and using old disco, with a solid bass beat, I see that it doesn't step on EVERY beat, but misses some. To test this further, I filtered my disco signal and just put the low bass freq of the music into the computer, and still its not as consistent on the beat as I would like, and also, Auto BPM, at least on my system, has some delay, so the lights change a little off the beat, and I think sometimes more off than others. I'm a dancer, and maybe am overly sensitive to lights flashing not really consistently on the beat. I'm looking to do light changes ON THE BEAT or multiples. Does anyone else have this personal problem? (I lived through the disco era, when we used analog color organs, which really didn't have much delay.)

This is what drives me to want a manual step trigger. You can actually learn to tap off the beat to compensate for any system lag. I've even considered running the music through a delay to compensate for lighting system delay, LOL. That might make DJ mixing fun! You'd have to mix the real-time feed, and ignore the delayed audio in the room. Oh, that's why we have headphones!

SO, my idea didn't really solve MY problem, but for you guys who just want to step rather slowly through a scene, you might want to experiment with my "solution".
RGBlite
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Re: Manual Step Trigger Button

Post by RGBlite »

Support, I just found this old thread: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=778&p=3038&hilit=step#p3038

with the following post:

Postby support » 05 July 2011, 09:51
The window "Button speed" presently contains: "Auto BPM", "Manual BPM" and "Manual speed".
We note in the TODO list: add option "Manual trigger" in this window.
No date for this, because working on a new big project.
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support

Is this still planned? It would be wonderful! Thanks so much!
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Re: Manual Step Trigger Button

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We are presently in the middle of a major new version. This hard work will last min until end of November. During this period, it is almost impossible to add a new function (only debugging is possible). "Manual step trigger" looks feasible. We could check that after the new version is ready.
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RGBlite
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Re: Manual Step Trigger Button

Post by RGBlite »

I understand. Thanks so much for your efforts! I am really enjoying your product. This function would really put the icing on the cake, for me! Ah, maybe a Christmas present! :D
CHR1155
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Re: Manual Step Trigger Button

Post by CHR1155 »

I also know the feeling you face, i work a live band and the timings are never the same!
The only way round it i've found is too listen to the tracks (i work for a covers band) and i make scenes (changing the page to "solo buttons") for each part of the song (chorus, verse etc) and can then just fire off each section when they get too it! Any sync'd stabs i just set up as a single loop'd scene or a strobe button!
Pink LD
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Re: Manual Step Trigger Button

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Fortunately for me I work with the same 3 acts and I am also in-ears with the band so I hear the talk back as well.as the cues. So it makes it easier for me to fly by the seat of the pants and watch for visual cues from the lead to the monitor engineer to kick off a track.
Still the Floyd tribute act I work with, every song is tracked. The timing and the cues are tracked for every song. If I had a way to send a stereo out to the soundboard and a mono out to the in-ears? I would take over the tracks and video, and timeline everything.
LightWorx
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Re: Manual Step Trigger Button

Post by LightWorx »

Support. Any chance this can be worked on any time soon?
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Re: Manual Step Trigger Button

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Not before first beta of new major version is released.
And we need some more weeks to get it ready.
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