BPM sync with DJ software

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MTFentertainment
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Re: BPM sync with DJ software

Post by MTFentertainment »

This feature would be very useful. Thanks for suggesting it.
kahilzinger
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Re: BPM sync with DJ software

Post by kahilzinger »

I put the bug in OTSlabs for you.
DHoude
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Re: BPM sync with DJ software

Post by DHoude »

Who is OTS labs?
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Re: BPM sync with DJ software

Post by support »

DHoude

Scott is open to any proposition, so we are looking for the best way for VDJ to trigger buttons in Live. We see two possibilities:

Possibility #1
- VDJ: you add basic tags along each song ("tag1", "tag2", ...)
- LIVE: we put a "learn" button (like there is in software 6.30 with midi trigger) together with a 'on/off' state option, in the "Trigger button" window

We define the trigger events like this:
- VDJ: you put the "play" cursor a few seconds before the tag
- LIVE: you set the 'on/off' state and you press the "learn" button
- VDJ: you play the song until the "play" cursor cross the tag
- LIVE: records automatically the infos "Artist", "song", "tag number" with the 'on/off' state

It operates as follow:
- each time VDJ cross a tag, it sends the info like for instance "VDJ just crossed the tag #1 of the song 'The wall' of the artist 'Pink Floyd'" to LIVE
- when the tag is recorded in LIVE as trigger for a button, LIVE switches on the button

Possibility #2
- VDJ: you add special tags dedicated for LIVE (with the name of the button to trigger in LIVE + the 'on/off' state)

It operates as follow:
- each time VDJ cross a tag dedicated for LIVE, it sends for instance the info "switch on the button called 'scanner movement left to right'" to LIVE
- LIVE switches on the button called 'scanner movement left to right'

Could you please tell us which possibility you would like to have, or if you would prefer something else ?
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DHoude
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Re: BPM sync with DJ software

Post by DHoude »

I think simple is best, unless it limts possibilties later. #2 sounds good as I am not sure how well the whole learning thing will pan out for other users. It would be nice if I could just manually specify cue names for it to respond to that could be consistant on any song like "stobe on" "strobe off" cue names (for a song break down start and finish). That way my lighting rig could do what it normally does until a stobe event is triggered. Then I would not have to think about the special spots of the songs I want to highlight. I could just mark them before hand and concentrate on mixing. Being mobile, I am the light guy too and I spend 95% of my time on the sound board with very little change on lights for now. That could really improve the mood of a song, while I concentrate mixing in the next without ever even thinking about it.

So to sum it up, I would only have a few key scenes like "strobe on", "strobe off" and I could name the CUE points that. I think VDJ can send those names. This could also be handy in another way. I have a Live Macro button for solw songs. I could make a CUE at the start of slow songs to automaitically trigger the Slow song Macro. Which would help me from jumping to the other PC imediately (if I even remember right away). That could really help save me some work.

I do like the feature, but have another approach as well. With every set I play being different, I don't always get to pre stage a show unless it is like Halloween. I have done some Time Line shows before and wonder if it would be better to have VDJ be able to load or run a Timeline show? Sounds complicated to me, but when I really want to sync to music timeline just seems like the better tool. Except that now the song would be on my lighting laptop, with it's cheap sound card... If I could load the Timeline set to a deck in VDJ or play it in VDJ somehow (maybe as a sample) and then the lighing data is sent across my network to the lighting PC, that could possibly be another good approch. Without going crazy on CUE point learning. I will say that there is some sound latency and it coud shift the light syncing a bit. So there may have to be a "Lighting delay" setting to make this work.

Hope these ideas help!
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Re: BPM sync with DJ software

Post by support »

FYI, our software (beta) is ready.
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DHoude
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Re: BPM sync with DJ software

Post by DHoude »

Great, I did not see it under the General section. Is it Posted? Or do I have to opt in? If so I would like to try it and help out if possible.
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Re: BPM sync with DJ software

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VDJ is not ready :(
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DHoude
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Re: BPM sync with DJ software

Post by DHoude »

Ok, I was asking about the beta show express. But yea makes sense that you would release it then. Thanks again for considering this feature!
SBDJ
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Re: BPM sync with DJ software

Post by SBDJ »

I've just sent you guys the beta plugins from our end - just sorting a Mac version for you now :)
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