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Re: [beta] Always fade between scene buttons
Posted: 27 November 2012, 09:26
by JohnRichards
@Support.
There has been quite a bit of discussion on this beta release feature.
It would be great to hear what the development team think of these suggestions.
Re: [beta] Always fade between scene buttons
Posted: 27 November 2012, 16:17
by support
We read carefully your posts ; we learn.
We are now checking the possibilities regarding software coding, while considering user-friendliness.
We will come back to you very shortly with a new beta program.
Re: [beta] Always fade between scene buttons
Posted: 27 November 2012, 17:01
by JohnRichards
Thanks guys, looking forward to see what you come up with.
Re: [beta] Always fade between scene buttons
Posted: 29 November 2012, 17:57
by JohnRichards
@Support and other Live users.
I have been thinking about this a lot and have come to conclusion that the ultimate buttons for this would be a "Master FadeIn" and "Master FadeOut".
Ideally it would take the shape of a slider like in editor, would be user programmable to which channels it would affect, and the fadeout slider would default at 100% and the fadein slider at 0%. On moving the slider would proportionally change the values of each channel selected.
How do other users see this suggestion?
Is it an extremely difficult program change, and will it remain a dream.
Re: [beta] Always fade between scene buttons
Posted: 29 November 2012, 20:50
by DHoude
I was chatting with Support on PM. I have my idea much better described here:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=1811 Check it out, it may not be as complicated as it sounds.
Re: [beta] Always fade between scene buttons
Posted: 30 November 2012, 19:15
by support
Fade in & Fade out moved from page menu to button menu.
The concerned channels are: RGBAW, CMY, dimmer, strobe_dimmer and par_can.
Please tell us if this feature is now more suitable for you.
And just for info (does not concern this topic), two other options added:
- "Pause on last step" (the difference with "no loop" is the button stays on)
- "Fader button" (fades from first to last step)
Re: [beta] Always fade between scene buttons
Posted: 01 December 2012, 21:03
by gilsontech
I just downloaded and tested this new version. I LOVE IT. Great work on the changes!
My Wishlist for this new feature:
- Icons like this, when active:

so we would know which buttons will fade in/out.
- Change fade In/Out times per button, the same way button speed works.
Thanks!
-Josh
Re: [beta] Always fade between scene buttons
Posted: 02 December 2012, 16:20
by support
"show 'fade in/out' icon in button" noted in TODO list.
Because of the complexity of our multi-buttons and multi-pages concept, we do not see presently a solution to fix one different fade in/out time for each button. Please note that this feature is more to save against a mistake when using Live, like for instance you switch off a button by mistake and the stage goes straight to black. Please keep in mind that, with well programmed scenes, there is always a fade in action with time of first step of new scene.
Re: [beta] Always fade between scene buttons
Posted: 03 December 2012, 01:52
by eedetail
This looks promising... I like what I see so far. Lots of possibilities for my shows.
However, I the Fader tool doesnt appear to work for me. Fade in and Fade out are working on my show.
Note, I am only testing using dmx out and 3d, havent tried it with my actual fixtures.
Keep up the good work.
TME
Re: [beta] Always fade between scene buttons
Posted: 03 December 2012, 01:57
by eedetail
My Mistake, Fader tool requires at least two steps in the scene to work.
It is now working.
TmE